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Post by ultrasonic™ on Sat Jun 15, 2013 2:03 pm

ang alam ko.. kng volumer ang tumer or eto tlga ang negosyo mo,... ay kikita ka tlga... pero kng sa once in a day o minsan isang beses lang sa isang linggo, buwan or sabihin na lang natin na once in a year may rewind na tanggap ay malulugi ka daw sis.. un ang sabi ng iba...

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Post by james on Sat Jun 15, 2013 3:15 pm

Lugi ka sa walang kita.

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Post by DJFEL on Sun Jun 16, 2013 7:42 pm

ok to ha..daming sira motor sa efan ko dito...maki basa nalang mona..

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Re: Efan motor rewinding?

Post by DJFEL on Sun Jun 16, 2013 7:54 pm

ultrasonic™ wrote:repost ko lng..



+1 sis daltanics...
sa mga nabuksan kng efan ang thermal fuse nkaseries sa lagi sa L2


okis to...maka 2log to...

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Re: Efan motor rewinding?

Post by DJFEL on Sun Jun 16, 2013 7:55 pm

+1 sa u daltanics

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Re: Efan motor rewinding?

Post by DJFEL on Sun Jun 16, 2013 7:57 pm

daltanics wrote:
                 STEPS OF electric motor  REWINDING
                                                                                                           1.kunan ng data ang winding kung anong connection or size ng wire
        2.tanggalin ang lumang winding
        3.lagyan ng mylar insulator ang slot sa stator.
        4,e recoil or eikot ang wire ng running wire ayon sa sukat ng diameter sa lumang coil.
        5.eikot ang wire sa starting ex;600 turns hatiin sa 3 so 200turns.mag ikot ng tatlong tag 200turns.
        6.ilagay sa slot ang running coil
        7.ilagay sa slot ang starting coil na unang 200turns hanggang sa pangatlo.
             lalabas ang terminal leads 8 wires
             simulan ng e connection.thanks sa makatulong ito sensya na sa explanation ko.
       
         
        parang ang daming mong na riwin sis ha..

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Post by daltanics on Sun Jun 16, 2013 10:28 pm

di naman gaano sis,hayaan nyo e share ko sa inyo mga data na na rewind ko,  electric motor 3phase,singlephase,shaded pole,dc motor,armature winding,generator,  nandito pa sa luma kong notes  since 1998 to present.thanks sa points.

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Post by DJFEL on Mon Jun 17, 2013 9:06 am

daltanics wrote:di naman gaano sis,hayaan nyo e share ko sa inyo mga data na na rewind ko,  electric motor 3phase,singlephase,shaded pole,dc motor,armature winding,generator,  nandito pa sa luma kong notes  since 1998 to present.thanks sa points...


okis ha...nice one..

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Re: Efan motor rewinding?

Post by DJFEL on Mon Jun 17, 2013 9:07 am

post lang ako dito yong motor kong saan mang simola at ano onang gagawen..

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Re: Efan motor rewinding?

Post by james on Mon Jun 17, 2013 1:03 pm

Sige na sir, dagdag na lang.

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Re: Efan motor rewinding?

Post by DJFEL on Thu Jun 20, 2013 7:42 pm

silep mona...wla pa ako ma e post..bz ka c..

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Re: Efan motor rewinding?

Post by ultrasonic™ on Tue Jul 09, 2013 3:01 pm

my ginuhit si sis roland sa elab.. baka makatulong to dito...  (^_^




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Re: Efan motor rewinding?

Post by FANY MOHANDES on Tue Jul 09, 2013 7:57 pm

Master ultra magandang hapon po. Master tanong ko lang sana para matanggal ang password sa coms set up may nabili kc akong laptop acer aspire dual core ndi ko ma reformat kc may password ung cmos set up.

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Re: Efan motor rewinding?

Post by james on Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:42 am

Off topic naman sir. Meron bang diagram sa pitch?

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Re: Efan motor rewinding?

Post by ultrasonic™ on Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:33 pm

FANY MOHANDES wrote:Master ultra magandang hapon po. Master tanong ko lang sana para matanggal ang password sa coms set up may nabili kc akong laptop acer aspire dual core ndi ko ma reformat kc may password ung cmos set up.

 nako out of topic ka nga sis... gawan mo nlng ng new thread sa compter section
.. regarding querry sa mo. try mo tanggalin ang CMOS batt nya ng ilang minuto.. pg di pa rin ma reset.. try mo e check baka my reset terminal pin ang unit.. pero defende kasi din yan sa mobo/lappy board

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Re: Efan motor rewinding?

Post by DJFEL on Fri Jul 12, 2013 2:58 pm

ultrasonic™ wrote:my ginuhit si sis roland sa elab.. baka makatulong to dito...  (^_^




 okis to...pang aralan naten dito....

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Re: Efan motor rewinding?

Post by james on Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:52 pm

Baka sakaling makabili ng pwedeng pagpraktisan.

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Re: Efan motor rewinding?

Post by ultrasonic™ on Sat Jul 13, 2013 3:16 pm

grabeh nkaka-inspire ang tutorial ni sis roland sa elab


Roland wrote:Hindi ako expert sa pagrewind, if fact kailan lang ako natuto ng kunti, pero ishashare ko ito dahil baka makakatulong sa mga sisters natin na gustong magrewind ng electric fan.
Kung akala natin mahirap magrewind nagkakamali tayo, madali lang. Ang kailangan lang ay tibay ng loob, kunting kalokohan, kunting kasipagan at kunting pagtitiis sa sakit at hapdi ng daliri.

Karamihan sa mga electricfan ay may 16 slots ang core at dinidivide ito ng 4 para makakuha ng 4 poles.

Ganito ang core nya



hirap akong maghanap ng image ng efan motor na nakafront kaya idrawing ko nalang.



kung titingnan natin ang motor ng efan meron syang dalawang groups ng coil , ang isa ay nasa labas while ang isa ay nasa loob o malapit sa rotor.

Yong nasa labas yan yong running coil or high speed (some call it main windings) while yong nasa loob yan yong speed and starting(some call it auxillary). Ano man ang tawag dun wala akong pakiaalam

Yong nasa loob 3 coils yan na pinagpatungpatong namely the mid speed coil, low speed coil and the starting coil. Bale 6 leads/wires ang makikita mo sa coil na yan.




to be continued ........ antok na

Roland wrote:post komuna yong schematic ng efan



Roland wrote:Number 1 talaga na tanong kung ilang turns at gaano kalaki ung wire.

ang sagot di ko talaga alam ang computation. ang ginagawa ko lang noong una is :

1. baklas ko ang isang winding(1 pole) sa main at binibilang ko yon isa-isa
2.  baklas din isang pole sa speed winding at binibilang din isa isa.

walang problema sa main winding dahil kung gaano kadami yong turns ganun din ang irewind mo.
sa speed naman ang gingawa ko kung ilang turns ang isang pole nagmaminus akong 100 for mid and 100 for low ang natira ay yun na ang start winding ko.

ang nakaganda sa efan dahil kahit magkamali ka ng ilang turns(lets say 5 or 10 turns) it doesnt matter gagana pa rin yan.

example, supposed ang nabilang mo ay 625 turns ang isang pole ibig sabihin yong mid winding ay 100 yong low ay 100 at yong start ay 425.

in my 100 years of experience yong windings ng efan nagwawind lang ako ng 575 for main winding at 600 for speed windings so far walanamang sablay hanggang nagyon gamit ko pa at  gamit pa nila ang mga gawa ko.

yong size naman tatlong size alng ang efan , number 31-32- or 33 kahit saan dyan gamitin mo gagana pa rin fan mo.

magwawind muna ako ng isang pole 32 in 575 turns at tinatantya ko lang kung gaano ka sikip.kung masikip sya mas lalo na sa speed winding kaya binabawasan ko ang number of turns or minsan liniliitan ko ang size.

believe me iikot at iikot ang fanmo.

 ANG IMPORTANTE LANG AY YONG DIREKSYON NG PAGIKOT MO NG WINDING, KAILANGAN LAGING PAIBAIBA ANG DEREKSYON BAWAT POLE.
 
Roland wrote:
here's how to wind in a carton bago ilagay sa core.



heto ang totoong efan motor . para maintindihan yong mga sinasabi ko sa unang post ko.



 
Roland wrote:
winding the main or high is like this



winding the speed/auxillary is like this



connection



courtesy of sis roland ng Elab.ph

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Re: Efan motor rewinding?

Post by james on Sat Jul 13, 2013 6:32 pm

Wow ganyan ang tutorials. Kaya lang paano natin matanong dito si sir roland. Taga ibang forum pala siya.


Salamat sir ultrasonic.

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Re: Efan motor rewinding?

Post by daltanics on Thu Jul 25, 2013 4:35 am

wow galing ng pagkabanat ,,,,saludo ako ,,,,more power,,,,,,,,Shocked 

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Re: Efan motor rewinding?

Post by Ahmadiloz on Fri Jul 26, 2013 1:06 am

nkaka stress...
pero tagumpay nman...

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Re: Efan motor rewinding?

Post by james on Thu Aug 01, 2013 6:48 pm

Kacurious naman si sir. scratch

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Re: Efan motor rewinding?

Post by Hertz on Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:45 pm

nice topic. credits sa lahat ng nag share

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Re: Efan motor rewinding?

Post by Oscar on Sun Feb 07, 2016 7:46 am

Blessful sunday mga master, tanong ko lang dito pwede ba malalaman ang connection nito ayon sa resistance check. naputol kasi ang mga wirings ng inaayos ko. hindi ko na malaman ang tamang connection. salamat

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Re: Efan motor rewinding?

Post by ultrasonic™ on Sun Feb 07, 2016 2:14 pm

likewise Car.. HS din... ^_^

on topic sa querry mo... yes pwdeng pwde... eto guide o pang reference mo sa mga standard Efan...

LINE/Common Wire to Terminal 1 ng CAPACITOR = 0Ω
LINE/Common Wire to Terminal 2 ng CAPACITOR = 550Ω
Terminal 1 ng CAP... to Terminal 2 ng CAPACITOR = 550Ω

LINE/Common Wire to Speed 1 = 400Ω
LINE/Common Wire to Speed 2 = 350Ω
LINE/Common Wire to Speed 3 = 300Ω

Speed 1 Wire to Speed 2 Wire = 55Ω
Speed 1 Wire to Speed 3 Wire = 95Ω
Speed 2 Wire to Speed 3 Wire = 40Ω

note: hndi exact tlga ang masusukat mo ha. depende kasi yan sa # of turns.. 
pero hindi yan nagkakalayo... swak yan for your guide.. yan ang pinapapa impliment ko sa mga exam ng tesda...  ^_^

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